tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post7284990976112079386..comments2024-02-16T02:11:01.578-05:00Comments on EEStor Ultracapacitors: Battery Revolution begins with Electric Cars?: Questions Submitted to EEStorUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-68392872063090281822008-07-25T00:41:00.000-04:002008-07-25T00:41:00.000-04:00If I was Eestor then I would use B's blog to s...If I was Eestor then I would use B's blog to solicit the list of questions that the informed and interested would like to know the answers to, as Eestor may not have a better mechanism for getting this list and it does not involve them in much work to get it. I would<BR/>review the list, decide which questions to answer and formulate and agree at board level the answers I wished to give. I Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09453679695623115808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-55403466161523235762008-07-23T19:36:00.000-04:002008-07-23T19:36:00.000-04:00Thank you ricinro! Now if I could just get someon...Thank you ricinro! Now if I could just get someone to escort me at a brisk pace thru the middle of their fabrication plant.<BR/><BR/>sds, EESTOR does read these blogs and I know for a fact that they have even contributed to blogs before. See kedros prac (Latin for Cedar Park?) Also there was a one liner under the name of illiterate shitheads a couple of years ago that I have always suspected WCHickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09191258908467034319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-63971961308025701702008-07-23T16:19:00.000-04:002008-07-23T16:19:00.000-04:00Thanks "B" for your blog. A few trivial comments:...Thanks "B" for your blog. A few trivial comments:<BR/>A glance at the satellite photos of eestor on discovery blvd does not show tanks of liquid nitrogen or any other typical industrial infrastructure. Is it likely that the "raw materials" are not so raw? The length of the buildings suggest a linear automated production line but there are five buildings, one in front that is probably offices ricinrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07658813488434179572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-7365994868817229682008-07-23T14:52:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:52:00.000-04:00Steve,That is great words, although they do not me...Steve,<BR/><BR/>That is great words, although they do not mean anything. EEStor is busy with doing it's job and probably does not care what are you saying here. Information they leaked ( which also could be somebody's joke) is just a favor for "hungry" people.<BR/><BR/>EEstor still has to come up with product. There are some indications that they have something but what it is and would it deliverUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17885946642176844937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-45069861459698699462008-07-23T14:46:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:46:00.000-04:00Steve - I don't think either of us will change our...Steve - I don't think either of us will change our points of view on this. Hopefully Eestor will announce just as B described, and we'll both be very happy.<BR/><BR/>If it all goes down the tubes, you'll just be more surprised than I will.<BR/><BR/>B - any gut feeling at all about the timeframe for Eestor's announcements?richtermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07679048112023058264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-6301360861792934142008-07-23T14:34:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:34:00.000-04:00Richterm,The price of all stocks are tied to news....Richterm,<BR/><BR/>The price of all stocks are tied to news. I don't see how this is any different. EESTOR has no ethical obligation to do anything different than they have done.<BR/><BR/>Your hypotheticals require the existence of shady unethical people operating a pump and dump. I have have seen nothing at all which raises any red flags. As long as EESTOR delivers what they say they will stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072728365984110108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-55359274988669892322008-07-23T14:17:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:17:00.000-04:00B ! You are getting famous by the name "a new myst...<B> B !</B> <BR/><BR/>You are getting famous by the name "a new mystery blogger" . There are links to this blog appear all over the places.<BR/>For example check this out, I got it from www.techreview.com link:<BR/><BR/>http://venturebeat.com/2008/07/23/googleorg-gives-electric-cars-a-push-with-investments-in-aptera-and-actacell/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17885946642176844937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-56148272939871101072008-07-23T14:13:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:13:00.000-04:00steve,The difference with Eestor/Zenn is the degre...steve,<BR/><BR/>The difference with Eestor/Zenn is the degree to which Zenn's stock price is tied to Eestor. Zenn's stock moves much more for info about Eestor than their own press releases where they say they're considering expansion, etc. Somebody behind the scenes could be making a boatload of money - manipulation would be extremely easy, and difficult to prosecute because of the private/richtermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07679048112023058264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-19663301507829066062008-07-23T13:16:00.000-04:002008-07-23T13:16:00.000-04:00richterm said:However they have allowed a situatio...richterm said:<BR/><BR/><I>However they have allowed a situation evolve where a public company shares ownership in their company. Therefore by proxy, they are a public company and should start to act that way in the release of info.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm sorry Rich, but I don't believe there's any legal precedent for what you are saying. Publicly traded VC firms invest in private companies all the stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072728365984110108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-73049460791019978782008-07-23T12:47:00.000-04:002008-07-23T12:47:00.000-04:00keep in mind that eestor's main goal is to commerc...keep in mind that eestor's main goal is to commercialize their invention not enable their competitors. they dont have to talk to anyone right now or even after their press releases. as for whether they should talk to a journalist or a blogger, I think that all depends on their goals with talking with anyone at all. once you understand that, then you can back into what should come from where andbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16179624631862732827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-42130065588385544072008-07-23T12:40:00.000-04:002008-07-23T12:40:00.000-04:00steve said -"I strongly disagree with you rich.EES...steve said -<BR/><BR/>"I strongly disagree with you rich.<BR/>EESTOR doesn't owe you anything. They don't owe anybody anything as far as revelation. "<BR/><BR/>As I've made clear, I am strongly leaning toward believing in Eestor based on all the DD I've done myself. Piecing the puzzle together is good to a point, but Eestor does have at least an ethical obligation to disseminate information in arichtermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07679048112023058264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-23834431742233114922008-07-23T11:42:00.000-04:002008-07-23T11:42:00.000-04:00jay,Excellent point. What's so funny, and why I b...jay,<BR/><BR/>Excellent point. <BR/><BR/>What's so funny, and why I believe Weir is communicating with B, is that they've let the public know in so many different ways that they have working engineering level prototypes.... <BR/><BR/>....and the peanut gallery/commentatorazi just sit there saying (whilst holding large carrot and chewing with buck teeth):<BR/><BR/> "Hey Doc, where's the stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072728365984110108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-85103943790935405512008-07-23T11:29:00.000-04:002008-07-23T11:29:00.000-04:00From EEstor WIPO patent"Leakage current of ten EES...From EEstor WIPO patent<BR/><BR/>"Leakage current of ten EESUs that contain 31,351 components each and having the capability of storing 52.22 kW»h of electrical energy measured at 85° C and 3500 V"<BR/><BR/>Steve this would indicate to me that EEstor had atleast 10 complete EESUs back in 2006. EEstor major technological herdal since then has to be the production line.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17366309960334541038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-57754359702051898542008-07-23T11:27:00.000-04:002008-07-23T11:27:00.000-04:00richterm said,B's investigative reporting is cool ...richterm said,<BR/><BR/><I>B's investigative reporting is cool when take with some grains of salt, but Eestor officially communicating through a blog is awful.</I><BR/><BR/>and <BR/><BR/><I>I respect your reasons for anonymity, but Eestor really shouldn't be communicating with you knowing this situation.</I><BR/><BR/>I strongly disagree with you rich.<BR/>EESTOR doesn't owe you anything. They stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072728365984110108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-58932468458620692012008-07-23T11:09:00.000-04:002008-07-23T11:09:00.000-04:00And in terms of an interview..Perhaps you could pa...And in terms of an interview..<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you could partner on it with Tyler? Perhaps you could set up an arrangement where you do a joint interview, and both write it up. You would maintain your anonymity, and the piece and Eestor would both gain the credibility of dealing with an established journalist. Tyler would make his bosses happy, and we could still discuss everything on this richtermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07679048112023058264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-17482008010236452932008-07-23T11:03:00.000-04:002008-07-23T11:03:00.000-04:00B - A professional way to do this is simple. EEst...B - A professional way to do this is simple. EEstor informs you that on July 28th they will have a press release. Mr. weirs has informed us that at that time he will be taking questions. He also said if we wanted to submit question in advance he will try to answer some of them at that time.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17557031241918722413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-26938158335392579352008-07-23T10:57:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:57:00.000-04:00B - fair enough, if the context is that they will ...B - fair enough, if the context is that they will grant/deny an interview and tell you which questions they can answer.<BR/><BR/>HOWEVER... I respect your reasons for anonymity, but Eestor really shouldn't be communicating with you knowing this situation. If they want to do an interview, cool. But they should insist that you reveal your identity, or they should do the interview with a richtermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07679048112023058264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-74651272538560489152008-07-23T10:49:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:49:00.000-04:00mrjerry et al, keep in mind, EEStor does have a p...mrjerry et al, keep in mind, EEStor does have a press release coming and will be using that mechanism just as any other company would. but what i did was request an interview with senior officials at eestor. i was told to submit my questions in writing. after some thought, i figured why not let the blog readers contribute questions. so, i think maybe you're thinking too hard about what's really bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16179624631862732827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-73932702250750644052008-07-23T10:42:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:42:00.000-04:00mrjerry - I feel the same way. B's investigative ...mrjerry - I feel the same way. B's investigative reporting is cool when take with some grains of salt, but Eestor officially communicating through a blog is awful.<BR/><BR/>I really hope Eestor asked for these questions so that they can craft a comprehensive PRESS RELEASE that puts their official stamp on this, and removes doubt that this is a pump/dump scheme.richtermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07679048112023058264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-69201485244456083762008-07-23T10:35:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:35:00.000-04:00I also agree that some of the statements but not a...I also agree that some of the statements but not all are pretty clearly indicating the existence of prototypes.Marcushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10800215214582791177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-89403872668628910432008-07-23T10:33:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:33:00.000-04:00I agree with a lot you've said Jack but aren't the...I agree with a lot you've said Jack but aren't the permittivity measurements cited above at high voltage (up to 5000V)?Marcushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10800215214582791177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-74298958339682345682008-07-23T10:29:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:29:00.000-04:00Jay,Thanks for the summary of official references ...Jay,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the summary of official references to EESTOR prototypes.<BR/><BR/>You brought into play 2 that I missed last night:<BR/><BR/>Ian Clifford:<BR/><BR/><I><B>EEStors been testing to millions of cycles in their early cell prototypes</B> so we basically have an energy storage device that is a permanent energy source that is distinct from something that has to be replaced every stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072728365984110108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-81041258012515583852008-07-23T10:25:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:25:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05363591973336602712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-14813780980258208732008-07-23T10:04:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:04:00.000-04:00Do prototypes Exist? I seen steve got into it a li...Do prototypes Exist? I seen steve got into it a little bit last night whether EEstor has prototype units. A series of link qoutes from various documents across the web.<BR/><BR/>June 1st 2008 Interview with Ian Clifford<BR/>http://gm-volt.com/2008/06/01/exclusive-ceo-of-zenn-motor-company-on-eestor-eestor-storage-units-cityzenn-and-zennergy-drive-systems/<BR/><BR/>EEStors been testing to millionsJayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17366309960334541038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8489475285158529856.post-589371910719196022008-07-23T10:00:00.000-04:002008-07-23T10:00:00.000-04:00We will see the questions soon under FAQ at www.ee...We will see the questions soon under FAQ at www.eestor.usJayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17366309960334541038noreply@blogger.com